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https://doi.org/10.5194/hess-28-4035-2024
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Mesoscale permeability variations estimated from natural airflows in the decorated Cosquer Cave (southeastern France)
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Review of Mesoscale permeability variations estimated from natural airflows in the decorated Cosquer Cave (SE France) by Pellet et al.
Understanding the processes driving the ventilation dynamics in decorated caves is key to ensure their conservation as even minor shifts in the cave’s climatic equilibrium may lead to microbial outbreaks deteriorating the artwork. Pellet et al. present a six-year monitoring study from Cosquer cave, a major paleolithic site on the Mediterranean coast. The only access to the cave is a flooded passage, thus prohibiting any major exchange with the outside environment. The study encompasses air pressure, water levels and cave air temperature. The authors confirm that the cave air pressure is always higher than in the outside atmosphere keeping the water level below the main paintings. Analyzing the effect of tides on the cave air pressure, the authors calculate a cave volume of c. 5000m3. Although largely isolated from the outside, short pressurization events during the winter season reveal sporadic ingress of external air. These events are used to assess the permeability of the host rock and, thus, may serve as reference for low permeable karst volumes in a broader context.
The paper is generally well-written although a cross-check by a native speaker would be recommended (cf. punctuation and use of articles); the figures are of good quality. However, a few points need clarification before being acceptable for publication:
Minor comments:
l.41 underline that the stronger airflow in winter is valid for a descending conduit. In ascending conduits, this would likely happen in summer.
l.63 please state the supposed mechanism driving this airflow. Obviously, this wouldn’t happen without an external force if the cave is over-pressured.
l.91 Cretaceous should be capitalized
l.92 “thin sections observations” delete observations
l.134 “monitoring” instead of “survey”
l.186 delete “in cave”
l.189 tide-related temperature variations “in the cave air” (?)
l.195 phrasing: According the cave air temperature measurements it is rather the wall which stays close to equilibrium with the cave air rather than the opposite.
l.201 Fig 6 suggests that, during low tide, the water level is higher in the cave than at Port Miou. Can you expand on this?
l.205 In Fig 6, you show that the cave water level is c. 5 cm lower than the sea level whereas the fluctuations shown on Fig 7 range in the order of 1 m. What do I get wrong?
Fig.7 I think I get the point but you may want to explain better why the sea-level was c. 0.25 cm higher in 2018 than 2017. What do the horizontal lines (red and black) represent on the figure?
l.241 This variation is
l.290 where does the factor 2 on the right hand-side come from?
l.307 what drives the temperature variations in the cave air? Using a constant Trock is an approximation as we know there are seasonal fluctuations in both, the cave air and the outside atmosphere? what is their effect?
l.325 please edit: ‘equation will, in most cases, yields …’
l.345 unclear, please edit
l.350-351 unclear, please edit. How does this compare with figures in the previous sentence?
l.380 missing article: when the air
l.405 unclear, please rephrase: are your referring to the rapid pressure decay or the slow depressurization.
l.435 have been
l.450 you may want to specifiy that this is during summer
l.452 the pools' reference surface (?)
l.455 should be “and during years”
l.476 waves where not addressed yet, did they? Wouldn't it rather be associated with groundwater recharge?
l.490 Wave heights and direction were not discussed so far
l.502 This upper conduit was not introduced yet
l.550 not connected to the cave. But what about the epikarst, flushing air into the frature during recharge events?
Table1 Please provide also numerical estimates and reference to it if these are used in further calculations
Fig.2a the 3D projection is difficult to read and a classical speleological survey would probably be more helpful here. In particular, it is unclear how P2 is connected to the rest of the chamber. Is this a small "island" in the middle of a pool? What is the grey-scale of the 3rd dimension? Adding some elevation quotes would be useful, or even better, draw some isolines.
Fig. 2b please add a vertical scale to this (nice) illustration
Fig.4C Please plot also the seawater temperature
Fig. 11 interesting figure, but one would also like to see how hydrological recharge correlates with cave Pair rises during the winter months, resp. get an idea of rainfall distribution along the year.