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Evidence for high-elevation salar recharge and interbasin groundwater flow in the Western Cordillera of the Peruvian Andes
Odiney Alvarez-Campos
Elizabeth J. Olson
Sebastián A. Zuñiga Medina
José Díaz Rodríguez
Wendy R. Roque Quispe
Carol I. Salazar Mamani
Midhuar R. Arenas Carrión
Juan Manuel Jara
Alexander Ccanccapa-Cartagena
Chad T. Jafvert
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RC1: 'Referee Comment on hess-2021-287', Anonymous Referee #1, 24 Jun 2021
General Comments
This is an interesting study that helps inform our understanding of recharge, groundwater flow, and spring origins. However, it needs attention before it is suitable for publication.
Firstly, the paper needs better focus. Some sections (e.g. the discussion of geochemical processes) do not seem to inform the overall story and are a distraction. The description of the study area is long and some of the information does not seem to be relevant. There are also descriptive sections in the discussion and a tendency to repeat information. A more succinct tightly-written paper would be easier to follow and have more impact.
More importantly, in several places the discussion of processes is not convincing (inc. the geochemical processes, groundwater residence times, and lapse rates). The explanations tend to be long and are sometimes not consistent or are overly speculative. The central point that the springs are recharged at altitude and the water follow different flowpaths appears reasonable, but this sometimes is lost.
Finally, the Conclusions are mainly parochial . Some idea of the broader significance of this study or comparisons with similar environments would give the paper a broader appeal.
I hope that these comments are useful.
Specific Comments
Abstract
The abstract gives a good idea of the major conclusions of the paper. However, it needs more focus on the results and conclusions rather than the aims. You should report a few key values in the Abstract as qualitative descriptors (“stable”, “higher” etc) do not convey much specific information.
Introduction
The introduction is clear and well structured. The first paragraph (lines 40-55) would benefit from a few extra details if these are available, specifically:
- Are the impacts on groundwater resources quantified?
- Likewise are there estimates for how much the recharge may decline?
This would help with understanding the context of this study.
Lines 57-65. Provide some references for this material.
Lines 73-79. This is only true is there is no other mechanism for exporting Cl. In some saline lakes Cl is lost via salt deposits being eroded by the wind (deflation). Is that the case here? If the lakes do recharge the local groundwater system, I would expect there to be some evidence of that (shallow high salinity groundwater around the lakes) – any evidence of that?
Study Area
This is comprehensive, but in places the descriptions are lengthy.
- There is some repetition with the introduction (eg lines 119-129).
- Some of the details of the geological history (lines 137-148) seem superfluous
- The climate description (Section 2.3) could also be more succinct – the important details are a bit lost in the narrative
- Again with Section 2.4, how much of this detail is really necessary
The lengthy descriptions mean that it is not always clear what the important points are. Try to give more focus to what is important for the study rather than trying to cover everything.
The order is also not intuitive – Sections 2.2 and 2.4 both deal in part with the Geology and Geomorphology. It would be better to merge these two (or at least make them sequential) and to present the material in a large- to smaller scale order. So the descriptions of the large-scale geology (lines 200-207) would be better presented before the description of the basin (Section 2.2).
Figures 2 & 3 can be merged – they are maps of the same area. That way it would be easier to see the relationships between the samples and the faults. Also, it is not currently clear from Fig. 2 what is sampled (springs, surface water etc) without referring to the Table – make the symbol for each different.
Methods
Here also there are some diversions (eg Lines 261-265) that are distracting and do not belong in the methods. If this information is important, then it belongs in the study area section.
Lines 270-272. Really it is only SpC that is measured, the TDS is just calculated from the SpC using an assumed conversion. If you have a full suite of ions (which it looks like you do), you can calculate TDS as the sum of the ions. If you stick with the TDS estimated from SpC, you need to note that and provide the conversion.
Section 3.2. A few more details on the Tritium procedure (enrichment and equipment) needed
Section 3.3. Need to report precision for the major ions
Results
As explained below, this section loses focus in places and it is not always clear what the important points are. You need to be clearer as to what information is important for this study and concentrate on that. The figures need improvements -duplicating the figures just to show the two Salinas samples is excessive. It is clear that these are evaporated surface waters and you do not say much more about them than that. In that case just omit them from the figures and note that in the caption.,
H isotope ratios should have no decimal places to be consistent with the quoted precision (O is fine with one decimal place)
Lines 314-317. Report the low 3H activities as bd without the +/- (which have no meaning for 3H below the lower detection limit). If the precision is 0.1 TU (Section 3.2) then the +/- of 0.04 for BED is overoptimistic. Given that this is very close to the lower detection limit, how sure are you that this is real. Given that you sampled the springs at their surface outlets, could it just be a small amount of modern water (eg recent rainfall) mixed in with the spring water?
Figure 4. The two diagrams are a little confusing as they present the same data. If you feel that you need 4b to show the detail, you could make 4a in inset with just the Salinas surface water on it. Also need to reference the LMWL in the caption.
Figure 5. Again, you do not need both figures – you can just use Fig. 5b and explain that you have omitted the Salinas waters. It would be useful to have Fig. 4 & 5 as a single figure as it would show the relevant stable isotope data in one place.
Section 4.3
This section lacks focus. What is important here (the processes or the differences in chemistry). The discussion of the processes using the Gibbs Diagram is not very convincing and could be done better. however, consider whether that is important. If the important point is that the waters have different geochemistry and so follow different flow paths, then just show that (the Piper and/or a couple of bivariate plots like Fig. 10, and a brief description would suffice). The discussion of processes is not very clear and may not be necessary.
The Gibbs Diagram in particular is not very informative in determining processes and you have the data to do that more rigorously. Waters dominated by evapotranspiration have Cl/Br and Na/Cl ratios close to those of rainfall (which you can probably estimate). Extensive rock weathering produces high cation/Cl ratios while halite dissolution produces very high Cl/Br ratios. A few bivariate plots (eg Na/Cl vs. TDS and Cl/Br vs. TDS) would show that much better than the approach that you are currently using. There is extensive literature on this (eg numerous groundwater papers by Mike Edmunds).
Lines 386-394. I presume that this also shows up in the other parameters? I’m not sure that you have enough data to do a PCA or cluster analysis but you should make the point with the other parameters.
Discussion
The Discussion covers a range of topics but there are a number of potential inconsistencies and unclear explanations. This is the most important part of the paper, so more clarity would help. I also suggest that you add a couple of sentences to the start of the Discussion as a guide to what you will be dealing with.
Sections 5.1.1 & 2.
The discussion regrading the lapse rate (lines 415-434) needs to be clearer. While it is true that springs can have stable isotope ratios that vary with altitude that is mainly the case where they are recharged close to where they discharge. In the case of your springs, you make the case (Section 5.1.2) that they are recharged at high altitudes. That interpretation is reasonable. However, the way that this discussion is presented is to set up the idea that the springs should vary with altitude (line 416) and then point out that that is not the case and then interpret the data in terms of recharge altitude in Section 5.1.2.
Much of Section 5.1.1 (the correlation with altitude etc) contains observations that should be part of Section 4 – some of it is in there already and it is just repeated here.
The magnitude of the lapse rate. If the springs are recharged at higher altitudes then you can’t use them to estimate the lapse rate. In that case, your lapse rate should be based on the surface water samples. However, those data may not be suitable, specifically:
- Rainfall sampling is referenced to an unpublished study. It is not clear how many samples this represents and the duration of the rainfall record. Given the likely variability of rainfall isotope values, you ideally would have a multi-year weighted average value, but is this the case?
- Snow is probably mainly winter precipitation and is difficult to use with samples that represent long-term averages.
- The surface water samples seem to be partially fed by spring water (Section 5.2). If those springs were recharged at high altitudes then using river water to calculate lapse rate is possibly not valid as it is not capturing only rainfall at the altitude where you sample it.
- A similar concern would apply to any rivers that flow from high to low altitudes and thus mix rainfall from a variety of altitudes
- Even if the rivers are mainly fed by local rainfall, their stable isotope values are likely to vary seasonally (as you discuss in Section 5.2) and so again are difficult to use in this way.
I’m not convinced that you can determine the lapse rate with the data that you have. If you are going to include this discussion, it needs to be more convincing. Otherwise you may be able to estimate it using other studies?
Spring recharge elevation. This seems broadly correct; however, it becomes more doubtful if there are palaeowaters in the basin (lines 463-465). Discharge of paleowaters into surface water bodies also complicates the lapse rate calculations. Is there anyway to test this idea? While you do not have radiocarbon data are there examples of palaeowaters in analogous settings or examples of nearby springs for which there are better residence time calculations?
Section 5.3 also needs attention.
- It is not clear where the 3H activity of “young aquifers” of 2.9 TU comes from
- The definition of fossil water as being >60 years is largely a northern hemisphere viewpoint as the higher 3H bomb pulse waters are still detectable in groundwater. This is not the case in the southern hemisphere where the bomb-pulse tritium has decayed back to natural levels (e.g., Morgenstern, U., Stewart, M.K., Stenger, R., 2010. Dating of streamwater using tritium in a post nuclear bomb pulse world: Continuous variation of mean transit time with streamflow. Hydrology and Earth System Sciences, 14, 2289-2301; Tadros, C.V., Hughes, C.E., Crawford, J., Hollins, S.E., Chisari, R., 2014. Tritium in Australian precipitation: A 50 year record. Journal of Hydrology, 513, 262-273).
- The residence time of 300 years seems arbitrary. Presumably it is based on mixing at the top of the aquifer but you have a fractured flow system that is likely to behave very differently.
As you have only three tritium measurements (all of which are close to or below detection) and you do not have a good idea of the rainfall values (2.5 to 10 TU is a large range), there is little quantitative that you can say here and this section is not that informative. I’d just make a case for the water being at least a few decades old in Section 5.4.
Section 5.4
Lines 517-520. I’m not sure that I’d expect Cl to increase along flow paths. To do so implies that Cl needs to be added from the rock matrix as evapotranspiration is a surface process. That will only occur if there is halite in the rocks (which is not that common). This concept does appear in may textbooks but the supposed process is never really explained.
Lines 517-525. You look to have measured Br. Cl/Br ratios will readily determine whether you have halite dissolution (Cartwright, I., Weaver, T.R., Fifield, L.K., 2006. Cl/Br ratios and environmental isotopes as indicators of recharge variability and groundwater flow: An example from the southeast Murray Basin, Australia. Chemical Geology 231, 38-56). You may not need to speculate here.
Section 5.5.
The first paragraph (lines 569-574) repeats the previous section and is not needed.
Figure 11 only needs one panel as you can show all three flow paths without confusion.
Conclusions
Again, there is some repetition here. Instead of repeating the specific findings, which you cover in Section 5, try to outline the general points. However, you should explain the general importance of the study or compare it with similar studies elsewhere. This will make the paper appeal to a wider readership.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/hess-2021-287-RC1 -
AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Lisa Welp, 04 Sep 2021
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://hess.copernicus.org/preprints/hess-2021-287/hess-2021-287-AC1-supplement.pdf
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RC2: 'Comment on hess-2021-287', Anonymous Referee #2, 06 Aug 2021
The paper “Evidence for high-elevation salar recharge and interbasin groundwater flow in the Western Cordillera of the Peruvian Andes” by Alvarez-Campos presents a multi tracer (isotopic and geochemical) assessment on the influence of groundwater flowpaths from a close basin salar in spring water upwelling at lower elevations that supply water to the city of Arequipa, Peru. Overall, I find the paper well-structured and clearly written and the findings generally well supported by the presented data and analysis. My major concern relates to the insufficient description of sampling collection and laboratory analyses. Given the relevance of the paper for the management of water resources in the region of study, I consider it is suitable for publication in HESS after some points described below are implemented in the manuscript.
Major comments:
L111-113: tritium and residence time come as a surprise for the reader. I suggest adding a few statements or a short paragraph to the introduction mentioning the value of tritium in the context of the study, highlighting particularly research on the study region for similar purposes.
Section 3.1. It would be helpful to include the elevation of the sites for reference in this section so the reader does not need to check Table 1 many times. Also, it is confusing that the authors sometimes mentioned only the names of the sites, other times only the sites IDs (presented in Table 1), and others, both names and IDS. I strongly suggest to homogenize this in the whole manuscript, figures and tables for consistency and clarity (i.e., this issue is common in this and the rest of the paper sections).
L260: describe how snow was sampled.
L261: report the period and frequency of rainwater sampling. If not collected throughout the whole study period, indicate why. I strongly suggest to give a name to the precipitation water sampling in Table 1 and use it in the whole manuscript. Also, show it and add it to the legend in all relevant maps.
L267-272: the description of water sampling collection is quite incomplete and requires substantial improvement. Some of the main issues are: how was water from river and springs samples? How were samples collected for stable isotope analysis stored to avoid fractionation by evaporation? How was rainwater sampled to assure evaporative fractionation did not affect the water samples? What sits were samples for tritium, specify? Report the made, model, and accuracy of devices used to measure physico-chemical parameters in situ and how often and how they were calibrated. Please update the paragraph with this and other relevant information that might be missing.
L286: I am puzzled about the construction of the LMWL using data for 3 months only. In section 2.3, it is mentioned that the very dry winter occurs between June and August, however, it is not clear if precipitation during those months is at all nonexistent, or just very little compared to the wet summer monsoon one (November to April). Even for the latter, using an isotopic dataset from January through March 2019 might not be entirely representative of the local conditions. I strongly suggest the authors to include a time series of precipitation during the study period in the paper for reference, and discuss if and how the limitation of the available isotopic dataset could influence their findings. Showing the precipitation amount data could also help to link their findings about the influence of modern day recharge on their findings and the developed conceptual model.
Section 3.3: there is very little information about the chemical analysis. Please report standards, calibration curves, detection limits, etc. used for the analysis of anions and cations. Also report QA/QC procedures to secure high quality of the produced data.
L.346-350: I strongly suggest to show the data supporting these statements (i.e., similarity between spring and surface waters). One option is to have a subplot in Figure 6 showing the springs’ isotopic compositions. It would also be good to include the isotopic composition of precipitation in such a plot (e.g., adding a third panel, or plotting together with the springs and surface water isotopic fingerprints?)
L.447 and L.502: how do the authors infer that residence time should be several hundred years old? If anything, based on the Tritium dead results, one could say that groundwater is older than ca. 60 years based on the 1960s bombings. However, without further evidence, saying that water is of certain age seems arbitrary and could be misleading. The authors might be right, but further discussion is needed to justify their statement. Otherwise, please recognize the limitations of the presented dataset and do not speculate about water aging. Based on this comment, I strongly suggest the title of section 5.3 is updated to “Insights into groundwater age” or something similar since results presented are not conclusive.
Light/heavy versus enriched/depleted: throughout the manuscript, the authors use these terms interchangeably. I strongly suggest the authors to avoid using the terms light/er when referring to depleted isotopic compositions to avoid confusion with the commonly used isotopic terminology of light (more abundant) versus heavy (less abundant) isotope ratios. Please revise the whole manuscript to make changes accordingly.
Minor comments:
L50-55: Please support these statements with appropriate references.
L65: add references to support the final statement of the paragraph.
L67: this is not true for the whole western South America because i) the northern (tropical) Andes in the north are generally humid and salars are mostly common in areas of the central Andes. Please specify the particular region of the Andes for which this statement applies in the whole manuscript.
L96: report elevations of the Laguna and salar
L145-147: add references for the statements in these lines
L159: similar to L67, specify the specific region across the Andes for which this statement applies.
L170: specify which rivers
L173: from 2018 to ??? please specify
L196: report values of the predicted precipitation decrease
L227-232: Misti and Pichu Picu volcanic complexes are quite relevant for context. It would be super helpful to show them in Figure 3.
L261: report names (or IDs) of the sampled springs
L.282: add references for memory effect on isotopic analysis
L.290-292: six sampling sites are listed here, whereas only four sites were mentioned in section 3.1. Please clarify. Also, please report the instrument and standards used for tritium analysis.
Sections 4.1 and 4.2: I suggest merging both sections into a single one as they present very similar and related information. Suggestion for title of new sections: Isotopic composition of precipitation, surface, springs and salar water (i.e., dismiss the times series portion of the titles)
L304: cross-referenced subplot 4c) is missing. See comments in Figure 4 below and update accordingly.
L308: cross-referenced subplot 5c) is missing. See comments in Figure 5 below and update accordingly.
L.373: briefly justify why the use of the Gibbs diagram could be considered robust for the study area groundwater.
L.379: Precipitation dominance for any of the samples as suggested here and in the last line of Figure 8 caption. Please revise and update accordingly.
Section 4.3 I find it odd that geochemical information on surface waters is not described in the results section, particularly regarding figures 9 and 10. Please revise the whole section and describe important results regarding surface waters.
L.418: how was it identified that surface waters were not evaporated? Please mention this in results sections and cross-reference a figure or table to support this observation.
L.430: enhance local evaporation
L.442: both isotopes actually
L.445: Please show the isotopic composition of Laguna Salinas surface water during the dry and rainy season in the figures.
L.449: add elevation of Tacune mountains
L.478: cross-reference Fig. 6
L.482: relative to surface-
L.508: please cross-reference Fig. 7
L.548: it is
Table 1: assign a code to precipitation sampling site and add it to the table. Also, specify the period of rainwater sampling, it seems it was January-March 2019 according to the text.
Table 2: as in Table 1, please show clearly which sample sites correspond to the Characato and Chiguate districs.
Figure 2: Suggest to use a topographical map instead so that the elevation differences are more easily visualized. Also, it would be very useful for the reader if the area shown in figure 3 would be marked in this map for reference. It would also be very helpful to show the different water types samples in different colors for reference in the legend of the figure. Also include this in the caption: “Names of the sampling sites are shown in Table 1 for reference”.
Figure 4: subplot c) is missing. Either add the subplot or update the caption of the figure accordingly. Also, please mark the dry season Laguna Salinas surface water samples in a) for reference.
Figure 5: the figure has very low quality, please update it to meet publication standards. Subplot c) is missing. Either add the subplot or update the caption of the figure accordingly. Also, please mark the dry season Laguna Salinas surface water samples in a) for reference.
Figure 6: add the IDs of the sampling sites as those are also used in the manuscript.
Figure 10: quality of the Figure seems to be low. Please improve it.
Technical issues:
L67: have formed
L74-77: Very long sentence, difficult to understand. Please rewrite.
L75: suggest using the term tracer instead of component here and in the whole manuscript.
L116: study area
L130: the population of the capital city
L144: 6.7 Ma ago?
L217-219: sentence is difficult to read, please rewrite.
L245: odd sentence in caption of Figure 3. Revise.
L256: six smaller high-elevation
L265: …in Characato was used to collect rainwater. Also, use the same number of decimals as in Table 1.
L286: were obtained
L.345: spring waters instead of springs
Figure 11: I think it is better to keep using the a) and b) type of cross-reference for the subplots for consistency throughout the manuscript, instead of the current top/bottom.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/hess-2021-287-RC2 -
AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Lisa Welp, 04 Sep 2021
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://hess.copernicus.org/preprints/hess-2021-287/hess-2021-287-AC2-supplement.pdf
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AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Lisa Welp, 04 Sep 2021