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Processes and controls of regional floods over eastern China
Abstract. Mounting evidence points to elevated regional flood hazards under a changing climate, but existing knowledge about their processes and controls is albeit limited. This is partially attributed to inadequate characterizations of the spatial extent and potential drivers of these floods. Here we develop a machine-learning based framework (mainly including the density-based clustering algorithm DBSCAN and conditional random forest model) to examine the processes and controls of regional floods over eastern China. Our empirical analyses are based on a dense network of stream gauging stations with continuous observations of annual maximum flood peak (i.e., magnitude and timing) during the period 1980–2017. A comprehensive catalog of 318 regional floods is developed. We reveal a pronounced clustering of regional floods in both space and time over eastern China. This is dictated by cyclonic precipitating systems and/or their interactions with topography. We highlight contrasting behaviors of regional floods, in terms of their spatial extents and intensities. These contrasts are determined by fine-scale structures of flood-producing storms and anomalous soil moisture. While land surface properties might play a role in basin-scale flood processes, it is more critical to capture spatial-temporal rainfall variabilities and soil moisture anomalies for reliable large-scale flood hazard modeling and impact assessments. Our analyses contribute to flood science by better characterizing the spatial dimension of flood hazards and can serve as basis for collaborative flood risk management under a changing climate.
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RC1: 'Comment on hess-2024-168', Anonymous Referee #1, 24 Jul 2024
This paper proposed a machine-learning based framework to examine the processes and controls of regional floods over eastern China. Authors utilized the stream station network including observations of annual maximum flood peak during 1980-2017, to analyse flood clusters in spatial extents and intensities. The structure of the paper is clear, however, there are some concerns.
Specific comments:
1) For extreme floods cluster in space and time, it is quite urgent to get the water depth spatial distribution and variation in the short time, like serval days. Instead, authors used a time window-15 days, to analyse the flood frequencies. Could authors demonstrate the extreme flood’s distribution in a period and define the water depth for extreme floods?
2) In addition, the AMF denotes annual maximum flood peaks. Authors mentioned “The 15-day time window moves from the first to the last date of AMF occurrences for each year. We thus obtain all qualified clusters” in lines 149-150. Does it mean that only one polygon is selected in every year?
3) In the methodology part, it is difficult to understand that why authors choose use the inversed ranks in Equation (1) for AMF to represent the severity of RegFl.
4) Authors used three machine learning algorithms, DBSCAN, K-means and conditional random forest for identification, characterization and statistics respectively. For each algorithm, it requires training and test. Could authors show the model performance in each algorithm and discuss the influence of model uncertainty in each step impacting on the following model’s training and test?
5) The predictors are in different spatial resolutions and time scales. Could authors provide more details about data preprocess?
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/hess-2024-168-RC1 -
AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Yixin Yang, 14 Aug 2024
Thank you for taking the time to review our manuscript and providing helpful comments and suggestions. We have prepared a separate pdf file in which we address all your concerns on a point-by-point basis. It is attached as a supplement. In this pdf file, your original comments are in blue and our replies are in black.
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Yixin Yang, 14 Aug 2024
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RC2: 'Comment on hess-2024-168', Guo Yu, 29 Jul 2024
This study analyzed the floods in eastern China from a regional perspective. The authors developed a novel approach for identifying the regional floods and attributing these floods to their driving factors. Compared to isolated floods, like flash flooding in a small watershed scale, regional floods often cause more catastrophic disasters. Such studies, like this one, are always encouraged to improve our understanding of characteristics and generating mechanisms of regional (i.e., substantial) floods.
However, a minor revision is needed before the manuscript can be recommended for acceptance.
Comments:
- For the Identification method, the transition from step 3 (DBSCA clusters; Figure 2c) to step 4 (largest convex-hull polygon within a 15-day window) is very confusing. If multiple clusters have been identified in step 3, will you merge them to a bigger one in step 4? Please revise this part to make it clearer.
- The statistical modeling and its associated results are not central to the main content of this manuscript. I suggest removing these elements and considering expanding them into a separate paper.
- In line 181, please briefly explain “flood ratio” as the way how you explain the “unit peak discharge”.
- Consider changing the subtitle 2.3 from “Empirical analyses” to “Regional floods attribution”.
- In section 3.2, please further explain “the role of orographic lifting in enhancing rainfall intensity.” Is there any strong relationship between elevation and rainfall intensity? Also, consider citing the following paper in Section 3.2.
Houze Jr, Robert A. "Orographic effects on precipitating clouds." Reviews of Geophysics 50, no. 1 (2012).
- Consider changing “Mild RegFls” to “Moderate RegFls”.
- In figure 9, it shows that rainfall peaks in about 2days in advance of soil moisture and peak flow. My interpretation is that extreme rainfall caused the increase in soil moisture. In other words, the watershed antecedent soil moisture does not matter in extreme floods. Please defend it.
Guo Yu, Ph.D.,
Desert Research Institute,
Reno, NV, United States
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/hess-2024-168-RC2 -
AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Yixin Yang, 14 Aug 2024
Thank you very much for taking the time to review our manuscript and for providing such helpful comments. We have prepared a separate pdf file in which we address each comment and provide a point-by-point response. It is attached as a supplement with the original comment in black and our reply in blue.
Status: closed
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RC1: 'Comment on hess-2024-168', Anonymous Referee #1, 24 Jul 2024
This paper proposed a machine-learning based framework to examine the processes and controls of regional floods over eastern China. Authors utilized the stream station network including observations of annual maximum flood peak during 1980-2017, to analyse flood clusters in spatial extents and intensities. The structure of the paper is clear, however, there are some concerns.
Specific comments:
1) For extreme floods cluster in space and time, it is quite urgent to get the water depth spatial distribution and variation in the short time, like serval days. Instead, authors used a time window-15 days, to analyse the flood frequencies. Could authors demonstrate the extreme flood’s distribution in a period and define the water depth for extreme floods?
2) In addition, the AMF denotes annual maximum flood peaks. Authors mentioned “The 15-day time window moves from the first to the last date of AMF occurrences for each year. We thus obtain all qualified clusters” in lines 149-150. Does it mean that only one polygon is selected in every year?
3) In the methodology part, it is difficult to understand that why authors choose use the inversed ranks in Equation (1) for AMF to represent the severity of RegFl.
4) Authors used three machine learning algorithms, DBSCAN, K-means and conditional random forest for identification, characterization and statistics respectively. For each algorithm, it requires training and test. Could authors show the model performance in each algorithm and discuss the influence of model uncertainty in each step impacting on the following model’s training and test?
5) The predictors are in different spatial resolutions and time scales. Could authors provide more details about data preprocess?
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/hess-2024-168-RC1 -
AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Yixin Yang, 14 Aug 2024
Thank you for taking the time to review our manuscript and providing helpful comments and suggestions. We have prepared a separate pdf file in which we address all your concerns on a point-by-point basis. It is attached as a supplement. In this pdf file, your original comments are in blue and our replies are in black.
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Yixin Yang, 14 Aug 2024
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RC2: 'Comment on hess-2024-168', Guo Yu, 29 Jul 2024
This study analyzed the floods in eastern China from a regional perspective. The authors developed a novel approach for identifying the regional floods and attributing these floods to their driving factors. Compared to isolated floods, like flash flooding in a small watershed scale, regional floods often cause more catastrophic disasters. Such studies, like this one, are always encouraged to improve our understanding of characteristics and generating mechanisms of regional (i.e., substantial) floods.
However, a minor revision is needed before the manuscript can be recommended for acceptance.
Comments:
- For the Identification method, the transition from step 3 (DBSCA clusters; Figure 2c) to step 4 (largest convex-hull polygon within a 15-day window) is very confusing. If multiple clusters have been identified in step 3, will you merge them to a bigger one in step 4? Please revise this part to make it clearer.
- The statistical modeling and its associated results are not central to the main content of this manuscript. I suggest removing these elements and considering expanding them into a separate paper.
- In line 181, please briefly explain “flood ratio” as the way how you explain the “unit peak discharge”.
- Consider changing the subtitle 2.3 from “Empirical analyses” to “Regional floods attribution”.
- In section 3.2, please further explain “the role of orographic lifting in enhancing rainfall intensity.” Is there any strong relationship between elevation and rainfall intensity? Also, consider citing the following paper in Section 3.2.
Houze Jr, Robert A. "Orographic effects on precipitating clouds." Reviews of Geophysics 50, no. 1 (2012).
- Consider changing “Mild RegFls” to “Moderate RegFls”.
- In figure 9, it shows that rainfall peaks in about 2days in advance of soil moisture and peak flow. My interpretation is that extreme rainfall caused the increase in soil moisture. In other words, the watershed antecedent soil moisture does not matter in extreme floods. Please defend it.
Guo Yu, Ph.D.,
Desert Research Institute,
Reno, NV, United States
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/hess-2024-168-RC2 -
AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Yixin Yang, 14 Aug 2024
Thank you very much for taking the time to review our manuscript and for providing such helpful comments. We have prepared a separate pdf file in which we address each comment and provide a point-by-point response. It is attached as a supplement with the original comment in black and our reply in blue.
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