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Non-asymptotic distributions of water extremes: Superlative or superfluous?
Francesco Serinaldi
Federico Lombardo
Chris G. Kilsby
Abstract. Non-asymptotic (π©π) probability distributions of block maxima (BM) have been proposed as an alternative to asymptotic distributions of BM derived by classic extreme value theory (EVT). Their advantage should be the inclusion of moderate quantiles as well as extremes in the inference procedures. This would increase the amount of used information and reduce the uncertainty characterizing the inference based on short samples of BM or peaks over high threshold. In this study, we show that π©π distributions of BM suffer from two main drawbacks that make them of little usefulness for practical applications. Firstly, unlike classic EVT distributions, π©π models of BM imply the preliminary definition of their conditional parent distributions, which explicitly appears in their expression. However, when such conditional parent distributions are known or estimated also the unconditional parent distribution is readily available, and the corresponding π©π distribution of BM is no longer needed, as it is just an approximation of the upper tail of the parent. Secondly, when declustering procedures are used to remove autocorrelation characterizing hydro-climatic records, π©π distributions of BM devised for independent data are strongly biased even if the original process exhibits low/moderate autocorrelation. On the other hand, π©π distributions of BM accounting for autocorrelation are less biased but still of little practical usefulness. Such conclusions are supported by theoretical arguments, Monte Carlo simulations, and re-analysis of sea level data.
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CC1: 'Comment on hess-2023-234', Sarah Han, 27 Oct 2023
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I think that this manuscript is very dispersive. I suggest to insert (in the first part) at least one flow chart and one figure, in order to facilitate the understanding of all the steps for a common reader.
This is the difference between a very good scientific paper and a common one; in the latter case there could be the risk that only the authors and a very small set of readers can deeply understand the work!
Font size of Figures 2 and 3 seems very small! A very good dissemination of results also requests suitable figures. I suggest to enlarge the dimensions and (mainly for Figure 3) to create two figures, aimed at a better visualization (and understanding) of the plots.
Figures 4, 5 and 6: is logarithmic the scale of the vertical axes? I suppose it, but it is better if Author specify it along the text (or in the captions). This is always for a clear presentation of the results to all the readers in the scientific community.
Sections 5 and 6: my opinion about the βdispersionβ is also confirmed by the presence of mathematical formulas in the second part of this manuscript. Indeed, the whole methodology description should be placed in the first part of a scientific paper, while the second part should be only dedicated to the discussion of the results.
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Overall, this manuscript seems to suffer from two issues:
- a not so clear (for all) presentation of the methodology;
- self-referentiality: in the references part I counted twenty papers of Serinaldi, and this seems not so elegant in the scientific communityβ¦
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Sincerely
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/hess-2023-234-CC1
Francesco Serinaldi et al.
Francesco Serinaldi et al.
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